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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2010, 01:42:58 PM » |
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These are warrants. They have te repaid before lenders. Kinda like preferred stock. Lenders aren't gonna be first in line as prosper continues to borrow. To all current lenders , every dollar you lend adds to their existing collateral IMO
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2010, 01:46:31 PM » |
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I read it as being notes with warrants (and convertibility to preferred stock) attached. The notes (loans) are unsecured, and may rank even with lender's notes (but without the possible claim on the borrower's payments that the retail lenders may have.
The warrants wouldn't have any claim on value of Prosper- but are a right to buy stock at the indicated price.
The preferred stock would pay before the common stockholders get anything, but after the lenders.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2010, 01:53:00 PM » |
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I don't see that this loan is senior to the Borrower Dependent Notes or secured by them; my guess is that it would rank equally with the BDN's and Prosper's other unsecured obligations.
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2010, 01:56:27 PM » |
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Remember when people used to wonder about who was getting stock options? Then Prosper was getting stock investors. Next they issued preferred stock. Now it's unsecured Notes...and at 15%!
There is a very scary progression here.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2010, 02:00:27 PM » |
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Great it's starting to look like any loan I have where the payment date is later than the 25th has a strong possibility of only getting two more payments out. I am truly sunk. 
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2010, 02:04:43 PM » |
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Please forgive me if I quote the blog entry as these things have a tendency to get poofed. Prosper VC’s Bridge to Series D Fund Raise
02/3/10 posted by Prosper Blog
As many have presumed, Prosper is in the process of raising another round of capital to continue building what is emerging as the future of consumer and small business financing. The process is going well and we have strong interest from a number of world class investors. We look forward to announcing our Series D round soon.
In the interim, we are very pleased to announce a $2 million financing bridge from our existing investors: Accel Partners, Benchmark Capital, DAG Ventures, Meritech Capital, Omidyar Network, and Volition (formerly Fidelity Ventures). As always, we are greatly appreciative of their unwavering support and excitement about Prosper and the enormous opportunity before us.
The fund raise is one of many developments we’re excited about at Prosper. First and most importantly, as a result of the changes we introduced last July, we’re pleased that estimated lender returns are tracking very well. In addition, continuing to attract high quality borrowers – the cornerstone of great lender returns – is our top priority as evidenced by the recent additions to our leadership team. With the persistent disruption of the traditional banking system, there is a world of opportunity to drive great loan assets to our lenders. However, we will be disciplined in our approach to the risk/return tradeoff, meaning we will grow volume responsibly and steadily.
As peer-to-peer lending enters the next stage of its evolution, it is clear that the industry will become a third way of banking. A way that is more durable and transparent than the now discredited Wall Street securitization schemes; more opportunistic for lenders; and fairer for borrowers compared to credit card companies in particular.
We look forward to continuing to keep you apprised of our progress and major developments. Your support is immensely appreciated.
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Stats as of 3/5/2010: Total withdrawals: $3,460.37 minus (-) Total deposits: $3,600.00 = ($139.63) Cash balance: $0 Principal value of active notes: $1.73 Total active notes: 1 of 70.
Successful loans are made to persons who are on a clear path to financial stability. -Mjerryfirst May 18th, 2008.
I know that when I make my 10% those "unbelievers" will call it luck cause that will be the easiest way to excuse their mistakes. -Researchpro May 5th, 2009.
It's a great time to be poor and irresponsible in America. -PPT May 2009
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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2010, 02:34:20 PM » |
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I really worry that this is turning into a ponzi scheme. A lender funds a loan, but doesn't get the payments if prosper BKs? As propser obtains more and more debt, their payment burden gets higher until they cannot pay anymore.
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2010, 03:16:43 PM » |
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In addition, continuing to attract high quality borrowers – the cornerstone of great lender returns – is our top priority as evidenced by the recent additions to our leadership team. I missed how the new members of the leadership team translates into high quality borrowers? (And, btw, doesn't this say something about John Witchel?  )
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2010, 03:35:00 PM » |
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My comment on the blog: How is Prosper different from “discredited Wall Street securitization schemes”? Isn’t Prosper doing the exact same thing by selling derivative securities based on a stream of debt payments while assuming no risk itself?
Let's see if it gets posted...
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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2010, 03:49:35 PM » |
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 If, as you have indicated, you don’t trust Prosper to detect fraud when it exists or to remunerate you when we find it, then you should reconsider whether you want to lend on Prosper. I did; withdrawing since Black Friday, March 30, 2007--with one exception.
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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2010, 03:56:04 PM » |
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Prosper sure did a nice job of spinning this one... "We have $2 million in new funding" sounds a lot nicer than "We took out a $2 million loan that we have to repay in 2 months"
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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2010, 04:03:42 PM » |
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Prosper sure did a nice job of spinning this one... "We have $2 million in new funding" sounds a lot nicer than "We took out a $2 million loan that we have to repay in 2 months"
Kinda like borrowers who want to take out a Prosper loan to be "debt free"...
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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2010, 04:06:11 PM » |
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My redneck math puts this at 75k profit for a 2 month loan
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2010, 04:15:04 PM » |
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My redneck math puts this at 75k profit for a 2 month loan
My napkin says $50K profit.
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Stats as of 3/5/2010: Total withdrawals: $3,460.37 minus (-) Total deposits: $3,600.00 = ($139.63) Cash balance: $0 Principal value of active notes: $1.73 Total active notes: 1 of 70.
Successful loans are made to persons who are on a clear path to financial stability. -Mjerryfirst May 18th, 2008.
I know that when I make my 10% those "unbelievers" will call it luck cause that will be the easiest way to excuse their mistakes. -Researchpro May 5th, 2009.
It's a great time to be poor and irresponsible in America. -PPT May 2009
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