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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2009, 01:36:05 pm »

I wonder where the 5% number came from? 
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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2009, 03:43:48 pm »

Fortunately, the very *first* post was a mention to the actual 40% default rate.  (It's the only post that nails Prosper proper.)   Unfortunately, the posts do not automatically display below the article.  You have to click on the comments box to see them.  Since most people won't, the article can pass scrutiny with the average reader.

I think someone noted the $25 bid--this was not a typo, this is the new minimum bid amount.  If it had been in place 18 months ago, I guess I could have 6-11 floundering loans instead of 5.  Prosper's assurances that 20 $25 bids will make you disversified are hollow.  We're not talking one bad apple, but 40% across all credit strata.

As for where she got the 5% rate.  I'll hazard she took a first year number from Lending Club.   Or maybe they want me to compare my -5% (or more) with my IRA that cratered.  My munis have fully recovered from the meltdown.

* The calculation of Estimated Return requires significant assumptions about the repayment of loans and lenders should make their own judgments with respect to the accuracy of these assumptions. Actual performance may differ from estimated performance.
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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2009, 04:29:44 pm »

"Corrections" at the Wa Post auto-replied to me with this. I'm not gonna hold my breath for any action.

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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2009, 03:17:35 pm »

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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2009, 03:47:38 pm »

If repeated enough times, non-truth will eventually pass as truth.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/personalfinance/peer-to-peer-lending-grows-as-traditional-credit-sources-dry-up/1038399

Nothing like rehashing an inaccurate story. At least it's a second outlet to post comments...maybe they'll even get posted.
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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2009, 04:18:08 pm »

Once it makes 3 newspapers it becomes fact.
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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2009, 04:25:08 pm »

Once it makes 3 newspapers it becomes fact.

...and considered a credible source for Wikipedia...
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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2009, 05:46:38 pm »

I wonder where the 5% number came from? 

The closest I can come is this: Someone tries to annualize 20.1% over the 3 years, 6 months (or so) that Prosper has been open, using the calculation 1.201^(1/3.5), and gets an annualized rate of 5.37%.  But that calculation is wrong.  The correct one (I think) is this: (1-.201)^(1/3.5) = 0.937, or an annualized loss rate of 6.3% per year.  But then, even my calculation is off a bit because the loans have different start dates.
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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2009, 12:32:17 pm »

To their credit, they allowed several comments on the topic.
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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2009, 01:14:16 pm »

To their credit, they allowed several comments on the topic.

I gave my 2 cents. Hopefully it passes muster. I name dropped Eric's and .org.
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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2009, 05:04:12 pm »

It didn't take Prosper long to place this article on their web site, which presents potential investors with proxy-data suggesting a non-factual risk level.

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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2009, 05:13:15 pm »

To their credit, they allowed several comments on the topic.

I gave my 2 cents. Hopefully it passes muster. I name dropped Eric's and .org.

My comment is posted on the TB site...
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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2009, 11:33:45 pm »

Veeery Interesting.

When the Washington Post stopped allowing posts, there were 15.  The Prosper link only shows 14--and the one making mention of the 40% default rate is the one that's missing.
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Re: Washington Post claims 5% default rate on Prosper
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2009, 11:39:10 pm »

Veeery Interesting.

When the Washington Post stopped allowing posts, there were 15.  The Prosper link only shows 14--and the one making mention of the 40% default rate is the one that's missing.

I am still seeing 15, including the one suggesting 40% default rate...

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