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Are you still lending after recent changes?

Yes - At the same or higher levels as before
- 10 (13.9%)
Yes - But more cautiously
- 6 (8.3%)
No - I am waiting to see new default rates
- 3 (4.2%)
No - I won't bid again, cashing out as notes mature
- 47 (65.3%)
No - I won't bid again, selling notes and bailing out!
- 6 (8.3%)

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xraider

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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #90 on: March 27, 2011, 10:05:28 am »

A lot of these deadbeats are easy to find.  Isn't there a woman who runs a fancy day spa in San Francisco?  And that politician back east?  And Ms. Tabby's fraud who now runs a credit repair agency?  And these are just the people who come to mind. 
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #91 on: March 27, 2011, 11:10:40 am »

Lets not forget the Gaerke loan
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #92 on: March 27, 2011, 02:35:43 pm »

There was a borrower who ran a newspaper called TheSFVNews who took the money and ran even though she was (and still is) very much in the public spotlight; she runs The San Fernando Valley Scoop now.

In her defense she did apologize and say she would make things right, but she hasn't take action on that (now rather old) promise.

Interesting - any chance you have a link to her listing?
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #93 on: March 27, 2011, 06:32:23 pm »

TheSFVNews Loan...

https://www.prosper.com/secure/account/lender/note.aspx?id=517085

...and this in Prosper's "Talk About The Taboo" contest...

http://www.prospers.org/forum/prosper_talk_about_the_taboo-t19130.15.html
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I’m So Sorry!!!!

In April of 2007 I borrowed $25,000 on Prosper to expand my newspaper at thesfvnews.com but I couldn’t make the payments. I feel bad about letting down all the lenders who believed in me, but now a year later things are starting to turn around for me financially. I really want to do the right thing, but it’s a lot of money to pay back. Probably the lenders would at least want me to pay a little bit back but it’s hard to get started. My goal is to make some small steps. Even though the loan is already charged-off and everyone seems to have forgotten about it, I haven’t, and I want to pay it all back no matter how long it takes. A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step-and writing this is my first step.

...Prosper has since hidden the page, which used to be at...

http://talktaboo.prosper.com/stories/im-so-sorry/

...so now they don't want to talk about the taboo anymore?

Funny she didn't mention gambling lenders' money away in a casino...

http://www.prospers.org/forum/relisted_community_newspaper_with_aa_credit-t1154.0.html;msg283419#msg283419
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #94 on: March 28, 2011, 06:56:16 am »

Here's Holly Patterson's plaxo profile: http://www.plaxo.com/directory/profile/42954789959/9f18b11b/Holly/Patterson

Linkedin:

http://www.linkedin.com/in/thesfvscoop

Looks like thesfvnews.com has closed down. 

But, she's employed at a viable, expanding company http://www.envoymediagroup.com/Contact-Us.html so her wages could be garnished.

Go Prosper!
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #95 on: March 28, 2011, 11:11:08 am »

But, she's employed at a viable, expanding company http://www.envoymediagroup.com/Contact-Us.html so her wages could be garnished.

Go Prosper!

Has anyone asked prosper why they have not yet taken this action?

They never take any action.  They are bozos.

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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2011, 11:22:55 am »

But, she's employed at a viable, expanding company http://www.envoymediagroup.com/Contact-Us.html so her wages could be garnished.

Go Prosper!

Has anyone asked prosper why they have not yet taken this action?

They never take any action.  They are bozos.

Other than the NAT, which Prosper horribly screwed up, and Victoria Crawford (since that was Prosper's own money on the line, not lenders'), I can't recall Prosper suing ANYONE.  I was publicly stating 4 years ago that Prosper needed to sue enough people not to be seen as an easy mark for fraudsters and deadbeats, but of course Prosper didn't listen. 
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #97 on: March 28, 2011, 11:45:19 am »

Ira, Ira, Ira.  We've discussed this at length.  Lenders aren't Prosper's customers, BORROWERS are.  There's just no reason for Prosper to take steps to protect LENDER money, since Prosper's skin in the game (servicing fees) is so low. 

And Prosper wonders why its enticing 4% rebate wasn't so enticing after all.   >:(
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #98 on: March 28, 2011, 12:56:56 pm »

http://blog.envoymediagroup.com/
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An industry that we generate prospects for here at Envoy is debt relief. In the United States, and abroad, there are millions of people that get so far in debt that they see no way out. Many of these people will turn to the internet to research their various options which include debt counseling, debt settlement, bankruptcy etc....If you find yourself in a situation where you can barely make minimum payments, don’t worry because you are not alone.

If only they knew how not alone they are...  :-\
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #99 on: March 28, 2011, 04:46:22 pm »

But, she's employed at a viable, expanding company http://www.envoymediagroup.com/Contact-Us.html so her wages could be garnished.
I'm not a lawyer, nor I have spent much time in court (knock on wood). I'm just wondering what has to be done in order to garnish wages? Does a lawsuit have to be filed and won? Would that then go down as a public record?
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #100 on: March 28, 2011, 04:52:17 pm »

Yes.  Unless you're the government, you need a judgment and a garnishment order.  Otherwise, anybody could do it.   :ninja:  And yes, the judgment would be a public record.
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #101 on: March 28, 2011, 05:39:15 pm »

But, she's employed at a viable, expanding company http://www.envoymediagroup.com/Contact-Us.html so her wages could be garnished.
I'm not a lawyer, nor I have spent much time in court (knock on wood). I'm just wondering what has to be done in order to garnish wages? Does a lawsuit have to be filed and won? Would that then go down as a public record?

As xraider said, yes, a lawsuit must be filed and won.  But I wanted to elaborate a bit to say that doing so would be very easy.  In CA, for the smaller loans, Prosper could even file in small claims court itself, without a lawyer.  In CA, a business can file two cases a year in small claims court seeking up to $5,000, and an unlimited number of cases seeking up to $2,500.  You submit a one page form to the court clerk to start the case, and then you serve the defendant.  You get a "trial" date which is usually about two months later.  In the large majority of collections cases, the defendant does not even show up in court, so the creditor shows the paperwork to the judge, and gets a default judgment. 

30 days later, you file another form with the court and you get a garnishment order.  Or if the debtor has a bank account, a different form gets the creditor a writ of execution, which when served on the bank results in the bank forwarding the money, through the sheriff, to the creditor.  If the debtor has any real estate, the creditor can file a copy of the judgment with the county recorder, and that creates a judgment lien that will prevent the real property from being sold until the lien is satisfied.  If the debtor owns a business, the creditor can send the sheriff to the business for a "till tap" -- the sheriff opens the cash register and takes all the cash (up to the amount of the judgment).  There are also procedures for seizing tangible personal property, including cars, intangible assets, interests in partnerships, etc.  The bottom line is that there are ways for a creditor to get paid on his judgment, unless the debtor is basically unemployed and broke (which, of course, sometimes they are).  But a judgment lasts for 10 years in CA, and can be renewed for another 10 years.  So who knows what the debtor's financial situation will be down the road.  I've seen cases where the creditor is pursuing collection on a judgment that is 7 or 8 or more years old.

In some courthouses where I serve as a volunteer small claims judge, a large percentage of the docket is made up of these collections cases.  There are institutional creditors (like car dealerships, rent-to-own places, consumer finance companies, jewelry stores, etc.) that are in court pretty much every day with a stack of files (sometimes 5-10 each court session -- morning and afternoon).  If they can do it, so could Prosper.  But why should Prosper -- after all, it isn't their money.  It's our money.   >:(
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Re: Are you still lending after recent changes?
« Reply #102 on: March 28, 2011, 05:47:39 pm »

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/casey-ketterling/4/512/392

Says he was: •Senior Software Engineer at Prosper Marketplace, Inc.

Who would have known?

Apparently the cat's got his tongue (or fingers):

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Late to this thread, however I want to go on record that I have not even TOUCHED his tongue, or any other part of him.  ;D
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