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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #210 on: August 20, 2008, 01:03:15 pm »

The point of my post was that the statement "someone intentionally went around the system to do something unusual" isn't true.  They were able to accomplish this minutes after arrival this morning. 

The amount of time something takes has no bearing on whether or not it's going around the system or unusual.
There is no standard way to remove an old username.  You have to get an exception that someone handles manually.  That is going around the system and doing something unusual.
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #211 on: August 20, 2008, 01:13:48 pm »

But to further chime in, the system is meant to be annonomus.  If someone accidentally lets something out that breaks that, then you shouldn't be surprised that they are allowed to correct that.

Says who?  According to Prosper's Official Privacy Policy:
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If you post a listing as a borrower, the listing will contain basic information regarding your credit grade and other financial information, in addition to any other information you make the personal decision to post. You will be identified only by your screen name, which you choose and which you can use to remain anonymous. If you provide identifying information, either in your choice of screen name or otherwise, it is your choice, and you do so at your own discretion.
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #212 on: August 20, 2008, 01:14:55 pm »

The point of my post was that the statement "someone intentionally went around the system to do something unusual" isn't true.  They were able to accomplish this minutes after arrival this morning. 

The amount of time something takes has no bearing on whether or not it's going around the system or unusual.
There is no standard way to remove an old username.  You have to get an exception that someone handles manually.  That is going around the system and doing something unusual.


I understand you position now.  Mine is just that there are different levels of usual things. 
  • It can be done by the user from a web page
  • It can be done by customer support by using some preplanned button they have to push (which is what I beleived happened here).

Unusual to me is you have to go get a programmer to code something or execute SQL statements.  That can't be done in a few minutes.
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #213 on: August 20, 2008, 01:32:53 pm »

When do we start filing criminal complaints of fraud?

How about waiting until the loan is more than 15 days late, to make sure it isn't just a glitch with the bank (they do happen occasionally)? At this point, the name changes and the late payment could be simply an unfortunate coincidence.

Could be, but more likely is that the <15 was a glitch but the name changes were still an intentional effort to hide the fact that the CFO's loan was late.  But what about the shennanigans with the CFO's mysterious second loan listing?  Is that also an unfortunate coincidence?

If it was name changes, maybe I could accept that it was a coincidence.  Instead the names were removed, which means someone intentionally went around the system to do something unusual.



The point of my post was that the statement "someone intentionally went around the system to do something unusual" isn't true.  They were able to accomplish this minutes after arrival this morning. 

But to further chime in, the system is meant to be annonomus.  If someone accidentally lets something out that breaks that, then you shouldn't be surprised that they are allowed to correct that.
The fact that this "feature" suddenly became known only when the CFO of Prosper stood to gain from it only reinforces our belief that this is a quasi-coverup. They monitor this forum quite regularly. Seeing that we found it outrageous that the CFO was able to do this, of course they are going to grant your request. It would have looked even more devious on their part if they had denied your request...they know this. They may be immoral, but they're not stupid.

There have been literally thousands and thousands of late borrowers, goofy lenders, and shady-listees who have been researched by those of us in the forums. Never...I repeat...never has anyone shown up as having their name-history erased. Can you find another one?

You're right, though...he didn't go around the system. He's the CFO...he doesn't have to. Instead, he just had the system changed.
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #214 on: August 20, 2008, 01:33:50 pm »

Letting Godfather request it is just a way to cover their tracks.
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #215 on: August 20, 2008, 02:00:04 pm »

You guys are a hoot.

There is an old saying that I heard that says you should never try to teach a pig to sing...it doesn't work and just annoys the pig.

Anyone feeling annoyed?
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #216 on: August 20, 2008, 02:02:34 pm »

You guys are a hoot.

There is an old saying that I heard that says you should never try to teach a pig to sing...it doesn't work and just annoys the pig.

Anyone feeling annoyed?
You're new to Prosper...wouldn't that make you the pig?
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #217 on: August 20, 2008, 02:04:15 pm »

You guys are a hoot.

There is an old saying that I heard that says you should never try to teach a pig to sing...it doesn't work and just annoys the pig.

Anyone feeling annoyed?
You're new to Prosper...wouldn't that make you the pig?
Good point - I have been told that I am not a very good singer.
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #218 on: August 20, 2008, 05:53:37 pm »

Is this you god-father?
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #219 on: August 20, 2008, 05:58:20 pm »

No - he looks far too good at singing.   ::)
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #220 on: August 20, 2008, 06:08:39 pm »

Prosper has now restored the history of Inglis' screen names AND changed the screen name on the account back to the original heavy_ax .

http://www.prosper.com/groups/member_screen_names.aspx?alt_key=8F113370067943985374F16

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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #221 on: August 20, 2008, 06:15:39 pm »

Well, that is interesting.

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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #222 on: August 20, 2008, 06:23:42 pm »

My head's spinning.

But I think that was the right thing to do.  ...even if it's an issue unlikely to impact anybody's ROI or Prosper's viability.
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #223 on: August 20, 2008, 06:24:51 pm »

Well, that is interesting.

Indeed.  Apparently Prosper realized that attempting to hide the delinquency of its CFO was too putrid even for Prosper.
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Re: John Witchel is gone?
« Reply #224 on: August 20, 2008, 06:26:04 pm »

Well, that is interesting.

Indeed.  Apparently Prosper realized that being caught attempting to hide the delinquency of its CFO was too putrid even for Prosper.
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