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Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« on: May 23, 2009, 08:02:15 pm »

Nothing happening at prosper these days, so Fred93 updated the charts showing the performance of Lendingclub's loans.

http://fred93blog.blogspot.com/2009/05/lendingclub-052009-late-loan-stats.html




« Last Edit: October 20, 2009, 02:48:14 am by Fred93 »
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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2009, 09:01:47 pm »

Nothing happening at prosper these days, so Fred93 ....
Nothing `eh?  Certainly more and more Prosper loans are going bad, yes?

ETA: Thanks Fred.
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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2009, 09:17:57 pm »

I certainly don't like the slope of those lines. They don't level off that much.

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In fact they appear to be getting steeper lately.

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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2009, 09:54:05 pm »

I certainly don't like the slope of those lines. They don't level off that much.

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In fact they appear to be getting steeper lately.

Yeah, the last two months are downright scary looking.  If that's the start of a new trend, LC will give Prosper a run for its (lost) money.  :ninja:
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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2009, 10:18:59 pm »

When did Lending Club shut down & do their own originations?

I am guessing that would be those flat months.

In any case, Lending Club has their interest rates set far too low to compensate for their default risks.  As are the only way to go on that platform.
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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2009, 04:42:45 pm »

Once again, just for rigor, Fred's charts are representative of all loans, over all credits.  So, grains of salt.

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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2009, 04:59:17 pm »

Once again, just for rigor, Fred's charts are representative of all loans, over all credits.  So, grains of salt.

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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2009, 05:06:15 pm »

If pointing out that the metric he's using is an aggregate of all loans (rather than broken down and/or
bucketed by credit grade / credit quality) is "defending", then yes.  Same goes for his Prosper charts.

It's just not a terribly useful metric to look at...  in the same way that some of the P2P companies
present their statistics with a positive spin when speaking in public (by only talking about a select
number of the loans, based on credit quality), Fred's chart should be viewed with equal skepticism.

As usual, the truth is somewhere in the middle... and requires a bit more digging than is here done.

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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2009, 05:25:10 pm »

Oh great guru,can you link us to the charts you make?
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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2009, 05:33:28 pm »

it depends what you're looking for. wouldnt a change in slope be useful information for example?
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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2009, 05:45:50 pm »

As long as same-type data is being collected over time, I think it's useful (as useful as anything else we have) - other caveats notwithstanding.

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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2009, 06:45:58 pm »

If pointing out that the metric he's using is an aggregate of all loans (rather than broken down and/or
bucketed by credit grade / credit quality) is "defending", then yes.  Same goes for his Prosper charts.

It's just not a terribly useful metric to look at...  in the same way that some of the P2P companies
present their statistics with a positive spin when speaking in public (by only talking about a select
number of the loans, based on credit quality), Fred's chart should be viewed with equal skepticism.

I disagree.  After all, someone funded each and every one of those loans, so each default represents real lender money down the tubes.  Fred's charts show that around 40% of the loans ever funded on Prosper are likely to wind up in the crapper before the end of the three-year term.  I think that is a "useful metric."  Of course it doesn't tell the entire story about Prosper -- no one chart could.  But that doesn't make then "not terribly useful."
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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2009, 08:00:57 pm »

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Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2009, 09:28:18 am »

I think the charts are very significant since Lending Club sets the level of interest rates.  Clearly Lending Club has not been doing a good job of this.
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