Prospers.ORG Prosper Forum

Advanced search  

News:

Welcome to Prospers.ORG!   Login here

Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update  (Read 4605 times)

Fred93

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Posts: 3914
    • View Profile
Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« on: May 23, 2009, 08:02:15 pm »

Nothing happening at prosper these days, so Fred93 updated the charts showing the performance of Lendingclub's loans.

http://fred93blog.blogspot.com/2009/05/lendingclub-052009-late-loan-stats.html




« Last Edit: October 20, 2009, 02:48:14 am by Fred93 »
Logged

Senator

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Posts: 1808
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2009, 09:01:47 pm »

Nothing happening at prosper these days, so Fred93 ....
Nothing `eh?  Certainly more and more Prosper loans are going bad, yes?

ETA: Thanks Fred.
Logged
Stats as of 12/29/2010:
Total withdrawals: $3,488.87 minus (-) Total deposits: $3,600.00 = ($111.13)
Cash balance: $0
Principal value of active notes:  $0
Total active notes: 0 of 70.

Successful loans are made to persons who are on a clear path to financial stability. -Mjerryfirst May 18th, 2008.

I know that when I make my 10% those "unbelievers" will call it luck cause that will be the easiest way to excuse their mistakes. -Researchpro May 5th, 2009.

It's a great time to be poor and irresponsible in America. -PPT May 2009

bankomatic

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +125/-59
  • Posts: 14939
  • Tyrant and Slave Master
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2009, 09:17:57 pm »

I certainly don't like the slope of those lines. They don't level off that much.

edit:

In fact they appear to be getting steeper lately.

ira01

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +145/-10685
  • Posts: 48360
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2009, 09:54:05 pm »

I certainly don't like the slope of those lines. They don't level off that much.

edit:

In fact they appear to be getting steeper lately.

Yeah, the last two months are downright scary looking.  If that's the start of a new trend, LC will give Prosper a run for its (lost) money.  :ninja:
Logged
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

onthefence

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-3
  • Posts: 5736
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2009, 10:18:59 pm »

When did Lending Club shut down & do their own originations?

I am guessing that would be those flat months.

In any case, Lending Club has their interest rates set far too low to compensate for their default risks.  As are the only way to go on that platform.
Logged
Lobby permission granted

nonattender

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Posts: 1348
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2009, 04:42:45 pm »

Once again, just for rigor, Fred's charts are representative of all loans, over all credits.  So, grains of salt.

-t
Logged
Nothing that I ever say is "professional advice" - principally, because I suffer from an infinitely inescapable prinicipal/agent problem, in that I am, in principle, always acting as my own agent.

Peer-to-Peer Lending & Personal Loan Information

bamalucky

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +426/-426
  • Posts: 42809
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2009, 04:59:17 pm »

Once again, just for rigor, Fred's charts are representative of all loans, over all credits.  So, grains of salt.

-t

Are you trying to defend LC now?
Logged
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

nonattender

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +1/-1
  • Posts: 1348
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2009, 05:06:15 pm »

If pointing out that the metric he's using is an aggregate of all loans (rather than broken down and/or
bucketed by credit grade / credit quality) is "defending", then yes.  Same goes for his Prosper charts.

It's just not a terribly useful metric to look at...  in the same way that some of the P2P companies
present their statistics with a positive spin when speaking in public (by only talking about a select
number of the loans, based on credit quality), Fred's chart should be viewed with equal skepticism.

As usual, the truth is somewhere in the middle... and requires a bit more digging than is here done.

-t
Logged
Nothing that I ever say is "professional advice" - principally, because I suffer from an infinitely inescapable prinicipal/agent problem, in that I am, in principle, always acting as my own agent.

Peer-to-Peer Lending & Personal Loan Information

bamalucky

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +426/-426
  • Posts: 42809
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2009, 05:25:10 pm »

Oh great guru,can you link us to the charts you make?
Logged
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.

112233

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +4425/-5360
  • Posts: 28280
    • View Profile
    • Prosper Report
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2009, 05:33:28 pm »

it depends what you're looking for. wouldnt a change in slope be useful information for example?
Logged
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

you're

Urbi_et_Orbi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +198/-117
  • Posts: 9355
  • "Lock Him Up" - Suspended Since 9/3/2009
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2009, 05:45:50 pm »

As long as same-type data is being collected over time, I think it's useful (as useful as anything else we have) - other caveats notwithstanding.

Logged
Mothandrust: "Why's he off the ballot in Colorado but it's OK for the other 48 states and Hawaii to vote for him"
https://www.prospers.org/forum/index.php?topic=37264.msg807090#msg807090

ira01

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +145/-10685
  • Posts: 48360
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2009, 06:45:58 pm »

If pointing out that the metric he's using is an aggregate of all loans (rather than broken down and/or
bucketed by credit grade / credit quality) is "defending", then yes.  Same goes for his Prosper charts.

It's just not a terribly useful metric to look at...  in the same way that some of the P2P companies
present their statistics with a positive spin when speaking in public (by only talking about a select
number of the loans, based on credit quality), Fred's chart should be viewed with equal skepticism.

I disagree.  After all, someone funded each and every one of those loans, so each default represents real lender money down the tubes.  Fred's charts show that around 40% of the loans ever funded on Prosper are likely to wind up in the crapper before the end of the three-year term.  I think that is a "useful metric."  Of course it doesn't tell the entire story about Prosper -- no one chart could.  But that doesn't make then "not terribly useful."
Logged
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

Staneslav

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Karma: +7/-1
  • Posts: 230
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2009, 08:00:57 pm »

a
« Last Edit: December 05, 2017, 12:03:31 pm by Staneslav »
Logged
Look to my coming, at first light, on the day of the Cub's mathematical elimination. At dawn, look to the NL Central.
My apologies to Tolkien.

onthefence

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Karma: +0/-3
  • Posts: 5736
    • View Profile
Re: Fred93 blog - Lendingclub 05/2009 late loan stats update
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2009, 09:28:18 am »

I think the charts are very significant since Lending Club sets the level of interest rates.  Clearly Lending Club has not been doing a good job of this.
Logged
Lobby permission granted
Pages: [1]   Go Up