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iLIE

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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2008, 04:23:39 pm »

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I think larger corporation should be taxed at a higher rate.

WHY?
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2008, 04:24:54 pm »

I think larger corporation should be taxed at a higher rate... I mean, the US is all about making it big, so when you do, don't you think you owe something to the country whose market system ALLOWED you to make it big?  It's the least you can do.
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2008, 04:25:29 pm »

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But what do you do?  I can't blame her... if she makes less working, why would she want to?  On that note, Is there a time limit to how long one can be on welfare?

Pride.Ethic.Moral fiber.

Make something of oneself & break the chain maybe?
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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2008, 04:26:25 pm »

Why do you owe any more to the country than the person living in the projects with the very same opportunities?
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2008, 04:38:53 pm »

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Here's what happens when you tax people/corporations who make more at a higher rate - they leave. I know at least 20 people I've worked with who have left the US due to the high taxation. Several took their businesses right along with them. I know at least 100 more who have their business offshore even though they live in the states.

But how much of the motivation for offshoring is taxes, and how much is the lower cost of labor? (general question, not specically about your friends.) Offshoring is going wild in my field, and labor cost is the first (usually only) reason given. Well, actully, it's the second reason, after "Everyone else is doing it."

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She actually said, "If I go back to work, I'd have to put my kids in daycare, so I wouldn't make as much money as I do now on welfare."

That blew me out of the water.  Her ONLY redeeming quality (after that statement) is that she was going to night school to become a nurse.

But what do you do?  I can't blame her... if she makes less working, why would she want to? 

Exactly. She is making a rational economic decision for her circumstances. Just as illegal immigrants from Mexico (etc.) are making rational economic decisions when they cross the border to work as gardeners. Given the circumstances, you can't blame them; they are acting in thir own self-interest.

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I think larger corporation should be taxed at a higher rate.

WHY?

Pride, ethic, moral fiber, appreciation for the country that gave them the opportunity to make money and get big?


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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2008, 04:39:24 pm »

Can't we take this inside so we can fight like real brother's and sister's you #$%@!!.

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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2008, 04:51:36 pm »

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Here's what happens when you tax people/corporations who make more at a higher rate - they leave. I know at least 20 people I've worked with who have left the US due to the high taxation. Several took their businesses right along with them. I know at least 100 more who have their business offshore even though they live in the states.

But how much of the motivation for offshoring is taxes, and how much is the lower cost of labor? (general question, not specically about your friends.) Offshoring is going wild in my field, and labor cost is the first (usually only) reason given. Well, actully, it's the second reason, after "Everyone else is doing it."


90%+ of the people I know with offshore corporations have all their employees in the US. There are a handful in the Philippines with workers there. Actually only 2 come to mind that have employees offshore - they just have the corps offshore.
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2008, 05:11:01 pm »

How can i have pride in a country that allows people to make the choice to lay around & breed for money?
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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2008, 05:17:18 pm »

How can i have pride in a country that allows people to make the choice to lay around & breed for money?

"But we can't let the children suffer because of the parents!"

Again, give them the birth control shot if they have 2 kids on welfare and that won't be a concern.
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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2008, 05:41:57 pm »

How can i have pride in a country that allows people to make the choice to lay around & breed for money?

"But we can't let the children suffer because of the parents!"

Again, give them the birth control shot if they have 2 kids on welfare and that won't be a concern.

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No shot = no check!
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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2008, 06:11:26 pm »

Or have the state take the kids and support them.  The parents can fend for themselves.  If they get a job that's good enough to support their family, let them have their kids back.

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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2008, 06:14:44 pm »

Or have the state take the kids and support them.  The parents can fend for themselves.  If they get a job that's good enough to support their family, let them have their kids back.

Do you really think that foster care is better for the kids than their non-abusive but unemployed parents?  Furthermore, the foster care would cost the government more than the welfare.
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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2008, 06:17:01 pm »

Or have the state take the kids and support them.  The parents can fend for themselves.  If they get a job that's good enough to support their family, let them have their kids back.

Do you really think that foster care is better for the kids than their non-abusive but unemployed parents?  Furthermore, the foster care would cost the government more than the welfare.

And the thread takes another lurch . . .  :)
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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2008, 06:25:30 pm »

Or have the state take the kids and support them.  The parents can fend for themselves.  If they get a job that's good enough to support their family, let them have their kids back.

Do you really think that foster care is better for the kids than their non-abusive but unemployed parents?  Furthermore, the foster care would cost the government more than the welfare.

Seems to me this would be a real incentive for people to find a job which can support their family.  The people who just have kids to milk the system would not have any incentive to do that anymore.  The ones who really want a family will have a chance without the burden of kids (not meaning to downplay the rewards that come with parenthood) to get their feet on the ground and become productive.

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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2008, 06:26:43 pm »

Or have the state take the kids and support them.  The parents can fend for themselves.  If they get a job that's good enough to support their family, let them have their kids back.

Do you really think that foster care is better for the kids than their non-abusive but unemployed parents?  Furthermore, the foster care would cost the government more than the welfare.

Seems to me this would be a real incentive for people to find a job which can support their family. 

And in the meantime, we should just subject the kids needlessly to foster care?
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